Actually, that’s an interesting philosophical question, Miko, not “can an immortal be killed” — obviously the answer is “no”, that’s what “immortal” means, — but “how do you know someone is immortal?” If you manage to kill them, they obviously were mortal, but if you fail to, well, that only means you’ve failed, not that there is no possible way.
But since, as a general empiric rule, existence of mortal beings is delimited by death from both sides: not only they will one day die and cease to exist for the rest of time, but they also were dead and non-existing for all the time until the moment they were born, — one can suppose that being an immortal, perhaps, requires being unborn and always existing since forever.
In D&D there is the complication if it comes back after you killed it. Besides the options available to heroes like revive, resurrect, reincarnate, transfer to clone, there are monsters, which cannot be truly killed, they automatically resurrect somewhere like aboleths.
I have never subscribed to that extreme a definition @Joker_vD. “Immortal” can mean that, but more often it means “will not die of natural causes or old age.” Now, if a being lives long enough they are going to have gained a lot of magic and a **lot** of experience, and probably some really high level gear so killing them is not going to be easy, but that kind of immortal can be killed and often is before the story finally ends.
In the case of immortals who have god-like powers such as reincarnation, re-entry into the world without reincarnation, a simple case of extraordinary regeneration and the like, there are usually tricks, curses, prophesies, and other razz-a-ma-tazz that allow them to be killed. Check your local Oracle or Wise Man™.
you can’t kill an immortal. that doesn’t mean you can’t defeat them. there are worse fates than death. an immortal can be contained indefinitely. just lock them in a prison without food and an anti-magic field so they have no way to escape. afterwards, just seal the prison completely to prevent guards from being tempted into letting them out.
I’d recommend parking them in a subduction zone and let plate tectonics do your dirty work. Sure they might get blasted out of a volcano, but it’s going to be a good long while before that happens.
I’m assuming a pre-industrial revolution level of technology. Once you hit the space age, then yes, yeeting them out of the gravity well becomes the best option.
You don’t. It’s like asking “How do you kill Wolverine?”
You take Wolverine, you cast him in a big hunk of a plascrete, and you sink that into the Marianas trench, and you basically don’t have to worry him for a while.
Immortals can’t be killed, but you can make them REGRET that fact.
It would be respectful to the characters to have them acquire and wear clothes, but you draw such cute boobies! Such a dilemma…
Also, I always wondered about the warriors’ horns. They are all different. The leader is more Ram-like, while the larger woman is more bovine. Do you picture them as separate subspecies, or is it a bloodline/family trait?
You are the creator of this fantasy world, so your word is the final answer.
As for the horns, I haven’t always been consistent in how I draw the Valryn, but I imagine the horn style as something that runs in families but isn’t really much more significant than eye color in other races.
Speaking of which, the Valryn all seem to share the same reddish eye color that a lot of the “monsters” in the Delve universe have. And breasts on reptiles! Who designed this place anyway?!
You don’t KILL that which is immortal, you CONTAIN it. Remember your Greek mythology, and where the Titans are now. You bury immortals so deep, they won’t be back to bother you.
Actually in Greek mythology (as in any real-world one), it was never clear nor explicit. There were many specific cases such as Medusa only having immortal head. And several sources stated that Heracles’arrows/Lernaean poison were able to kill immortal s. At least some of them.
Relationship status confirmed.
Well, you go digging through the universal lost and found and there’s no telling what will “found” it’s way into your knapsack.
8)
Nice, now we have Miko the Miko
Heh heh 8)
Actually, that’s an interesting philosophical question, Miko, not “can an immortal be killed” — obviously the answer is “no”, that’s what “immortal” means, — but “how do you know someone is immortal?” If you manage to kill them, they obviously were mortal, but if you fail to, well, that only means you’ve failed, not that there is no possible way.
But since, as a general empiric rule, existence of mortal beings is delimited by death from both sides: not only they will one day die and cease to exist for the rest of time, but they also were dead and non-existing for all the time until the moment they were born, — one can suppose that being an immortal, perhaps, requires being unborn and always existing since forever.
Remove the head. Then you become immortal or something.
In D&D there is the complication if it comes back after you killed it. Besides the options available to heroes like revive, resurrect, reincarnate, transfer to clone, there are monsters, which cannot be truly killed, they automatically resurrect somewhere like aboleths.
There can be only One! 😀
That is not dead which can eternal lie?
I have never subscribed to that extreme a definition @Joker_vD. “Immortal” can mean that, but more often it means “will not die of natural causes or old age.” Now, if a being lives long enough they are going to have gained a lot of magic and a **lot** of experience, and probably some really high level gear so killing them is not going to be easy, but that kind of immortal can be killed and often is before the story finally ends.
In the case of immortals who have god-like powers such as reincarnation, re-entry into the world without reincarnation, a simple case of extraordinary regeneration and the like, there are usually tricks, curses, prophesies, and other razz-a-ma-tazz that allow them to be killed. Check your local Oracle or Wise Man™.
Ah yes, the old ‘bag of useful items’, an adventurer’s dream come true 🙂
8) I always wanted to find a Bucknard’s Everfull Purse, but the DM thought it would be funnier to give me a +1 cursed sword.
you can’t kill an immortal. that doesn’t mean you can’t defeat them. there are worse fates than death. an immortal can be contained indefinitely. just lock them in a prison without food and an anti-magic field so they have no way to escape. afterwards, just seal the prison completely to prevent guards from being tempted into letting them out.
“Forever” is a long time. Rocks erode, iron rusts. The prison will not last.
I’d recommend parking them in a subduction zone and let plate tectonics do your dirty work. Sure they might get blasted out of a volcano, but it’s going to be a good long while before that happens.
Blasting them high enough that they reach orbit – or better yet, drift off into the infinite cosmos – might be a more effective long-term solution.
I’m assuming a pre-industrial revolution level of technology. Once you hit the space age, then yes, yeeting them out of the gravity well becomes the best option.
Panel 2 looks like Miko got Teal’s hair for a second.
Not enough hair gel to hold though.
8)
Anything that lives can die, sometimes it’s just really REALLY hard.
I think the important question is what sort of waybread is it? Cliff Bar? Twinkie? Maybe a snickers?
Now Mike can make more of them with magic, right? 🙂
^ Miko (curses)
You don’t. It’s like asking “How do you kill Wolverine?”
You take Wolverine, you cast him in a big hunk of a plascrete, and you sink that into the Marianas trench, and you basically don’t have to worry him for a while.
Immortals can’t be killed, but you can make them REGRET that fact.
Or Captain Jack
Gonna miss Miko, she was fun while she lasted
Two things:
It would be respectful to the characters to have them acquire and wear clothes, but you draw such cute boobies! Such a dilemma…
Also, I always wondered about the warriors’ horns. They are all different. The leader is more Ram-like, while the larger woman is more bovine. Do you picture them as separate subspecies, or is it a bloodline/family trait?
You are the creator of this fantasy world, so your word is the final answer.
Please, and Thank you.
Heh heh, thanks!
As for the horns, I haven’t always been consistent in how I draw the Valryn, but I imagine the horn style as something that runs in families but isn’t really much more significant than eye color in other races.
Speaking of which, the Valryn all seem to share the same reddish eye color that a lot of the “monsters” in the Delve universe have. And breasts on reptiles! Who designed this place anyway?!
“Who designed this place anyway?!” A genius!
You don’t KILL that which is immortal, you CONTAIN it. Remember your Greek mythology, and where the Titans are now. You bury immortals so deep, they won’t be back to bother you.
Actually in Greek mythology (as in any real-world one), it was never clear nor explicit. There were many specific cases such as Medusa only having immortal head. And several sources stated that Heracles’arrows/Lernaean poison were able to kill immortal s. At least some of them.